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Playing the Long Game on Policy Change 🩵, with Jean Flemma
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Playing the Long Game on Policy Change 🩵, with Jean Flemma

A little lovefest with my ocean policy idol.

Realizing I haven’t said this enough: You can listen wherever you get your podcasts — Apple, Spotify, etc. Subscribe/follow/review (all the stars!) so you’ll be all ready for... 🥁🥁🥁 season 2!

✨INTRODUCING Jean Flemma

My guest this episode is The Jean Flemma. Jean spent over two decades working on Capitol Hill as staff to members of Congress, making magic behind the scenes over and over again. She is an absolute wizard of ocean and climate policy and the politics of achieving policy change. Jean is one of those IYKYK kind of people — those who work in this space universally respect her, and I am so proud to know her.

With Jean at Powell’s Books in Portland, OR. Total lovefest.

Jean and I, with Marquise Stillwell, co-founded Urban Ocean Lab, a nonprofit think tank for the future of coastal cities. So you’ll hear a bit about that in this episode. Heaps of good change can happen at the city government level — adapting to climate impacts, helping communities become more resilient, and simply taking care of the people who live there. You can keep up with UOL’s wonky policy memos, jazzy data visualizations, and lots more in our launching-this-week Substack newsletter...

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PODCAST UPDATE — There will be a season 2!

Season 1 is now a wrap. 🎁 A dozen episodes, we did it! Check out the back catalog if you missed some. (Yep, wherever you get your podcasts.) Season 2 will be coming in hot in April 🔥 — more on that soon...

CREDITS

Many thanks to Powell’s Books for hosting us for this event, and thank you as always to my chief of staff Jenisha Shrestha.

HUGE SHOUTOUT to Nora Saks, who produced and edited every single episode of season one with me. It was an absolute delight to collaborate with her. Thank you, Nora.

And thanks to every single one of you for listening. We’ll be back very soon with shiny new episodes. Stay tuned!

Thanks for having us, Powell’s!

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